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[warandpeace]

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Maybe it's that I'm a perfectionist, but I don't like us handing this job with the hunters off to someone else. I don't know whether it's a matter of diplomatic neutrality or what, which is what I suspect. It just... My men are trained in non-lethal take-downs. With the skill sets available on board, the numbers, I think it would be relatively simple to render the entire stock of hunters unconscious and have them transported off the planet.

No casualties. Quick. Clean. I've seen other people on board in action, ones I didn't train, both in the simulation room and out in the wild. They're good. The mercenaries could take up protection work after the fact. But honestly, lowest damage possible scenario, I would trust to us.

Yeah. Doesn't sit right. [Not the mission itself. Having the hunters driven out? Fine. Giving up ship expenses and valuables to pay for what they could very easily do themselves? That gives him a lot of pause.]

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[sidecars]

Yeah! Why're we givin' em our stuff when we can do the job for free?

[warandpeace]

It's not that difficult a challenge to rise to.

No less than six people on this ship right now have the ability to empty an entire base on their own minus any sort of firearm and using complete stealth. We have several individuals of incredible strength that can destroy usable hunting equipment with their bare hands. We have people that can use various levels of mind-control.

Our people are very good. I don't know anything about these guys.

[sidecars]

..... Am I included in any of that grand standing, or?

[ Because Bucky can't really tell. He's clearly not part of the super humans, and Miller has never seen him in actual combat. He's just that one PFC that's kinda in the Army? Yeah. ]

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[ersatzeverything]

I've gotta agree. I'd like to find a peaceful solution, but if we're going to do this we should do it ourselves, take responsibility and control how we do it and how far we're willing to go. If we leave it to the mercenaries things could get out of hand.

If we can do it without casualties, I'm totally up for it.

[And if they do decide to do it...]

I could go down to the planet in advance, scope out the place and bring back detailed intel for your team.

[warandpeace]

Didn't know you were good with Intel. You might want to talk with Ocelot sometime. If you can tolerate him.

[He says as if he's not been tolerating him.]

But yeah, solid maps and marked non-crew would be a good idea anyway.

[ersatzeverything]

Yeah...uh...info stuff is cool. It's like a hobby.

[His desire to lie and walk back what he'd just admitted wars with a rising professional focus with a possible mission looming.]

Maps and markers. Can do. I can probably get intel on some of the hunters themselves, too. Like, who might have had combat training, who walks around armed and who doesn't, that kind of thing. [Get the right kind of clothes and slip in among them and just gossip for a few hours and see what useful bits of information they might reveal.]

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[saveyourserpent]

So, essentially, you want people to go down, tranq all the hunters, and send them away before they wake up?

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Boring, but I suppose it's no less boring than paying a bunch of people in random trinkets.

And when they wake up, head back to where they were, and go right back to what they were doing?

[Because that's what people do after they wake up after being tranqed, right?]

[warandpeace]

The idea is to use restraints and transport them off the planet on their own ships, because we also have competent ship pilots. Then the mercs could guard the planet from the outside.

Payment wouldn't have to be so immediate. If anything, we could use what was left on the planet to cover anything initial.

[saveyourserpent]

I do suppose they'd be leaving behind plenty of valuables. A whole bloody planet full of them, ripe for the taking. No reason for them to come back with their tails between their legs.

...Wonder what piloting a spaceship's like.

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[trap_factory]

[Why is he typing a response when a verbal one would be better suited to this, no one knows. But considering cardboard boxes are the de facto stealth item back on Mother Base, this is probably a lot easier to explain]

mentioned this to someone else a week ago... my assigned job is sort of defunct in the face of all these armed and dangerous personnel we have. and i'm not exactly fond of the idea of meddling with the natural order of things either.
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though... lowest damage possible scenario sounds like wishful thinking, based on the track record the crew has so far.

[warandpeace]

The crew has new people. More skills. More abilities. Greater numbers with different experiences to reference.

The track record of the past doesn't necessarily mean it would stand.

Natural order, though. Not really. Just call it money. That's what it is. They're hunting for money. Now we're considering hiring people to hunt for money. But if we must do it, I'd rather do it this way, at least there would be some reliability.

[trap_factory]

you're the strategizing sort, aren't you?

it doesn't mean it will stand, but it certainly doesn't support the narrative you're trying to spin, does it? it's difficult to ignore the talk of how this crew has apparently left a wake of destruction behind it.

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you're right! if we're going to destroy the planet by interfering where we're not wanted, then we shouldn't involve outside parties. or, well, any more outside parties than necessary. especially if we're such a reliable group.

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[bloodbinds]

Whatever you're intending to do, count me in. We don't need to kill these people, but--

[ But what they're doing is murder. Ava wants them gone. ]

I want to help.

[warandpeace]

Thanks. If we were to get the go ahead, I think we could do it.

And honestly, no matter what we do, it's on our head now. We hire the mercenaries and they fuck up, it's still us. We leave these people behind to suffer, tell them that its their fault for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, then that's on us too. We do something to stop this ourselves? At least the results would be within our control.

[He didn't intend to fight for a greater good, rock the boat. He's learned not to care much about it. But now he has reasons.]

[bloodbinds]

I hear you on that. We came here and made this our business. It's our responsibility to see it through, and I don't like the idea of some strangers coming in. For all we know, they'll do something worse to this planet and any good intention we might have had will be thrown out the window.

[ She wants to save the creatures that are here, come hell or high water. She can withstand both. ]

I'd just rather not kill if we can help it. It'd be nice if they just leave on their own.

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[diamondslap]

And what, pray tell, will stop them simply going back?

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[warandpeace]

The mercenaries maintaining it from the outside, after the hunters have been pushed out. Coupled with destroyed equipment that make re-establishing a presence extremely difficult.

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[diamondslap]

Mercenaries.

[she says it slowly.]

Mer-cen-aries.

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[a_shadow]

No casualties? What's the fucking point? They're just going to come back, and I guarantee they'll find a way to buy the mercenaries off to leave them alone once we've turned our backs.

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[warandpeace]

No casualties because the captains made a point of specifying no casualties on the last planet.

For consistent pay, mercenaries will usually stick to contracts. Between decent pay, hunter equipment being destroyed and damaged, and whatever structure the techies would build, it would make it not worth it for them.

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[needsnoface]

It would be hard to keep any sort of 'neutrality' in the face of the fact there is no way to ensure our involvement in hiring said mercenaries is kept hushed up. I agree with you that if so many are wishing to fight for some moral obligation for a planet that we will likely never see again, then seeing it through personally is actually better.

Though I will state that becoming involved is a risk with a high statistical possibility of causing us more problems in the long run, especially in the event that we are jumping in blind and thus are not seeing factors that could violently cause a change in outcome. Especially in regards to our giving away materials that may or may not be needed for bartering for survival necessities at a future time.

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[warandpeace]

It could run a high risk, except in this case we would know exactly what resources we had access to.

This is a case of "if" we do it.

Normally I'm not too worried about moral obligations. But I'm not sure how I feel about this. Well... let's see if they have something to offer, too. You never know.

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[noitatnacni]

You know, we could do it anyway. I mean, if you get something organized fast enough, we could have the problem handled before the deal's put into place.

[Hello and welcome to this episode of teenaged superhero logic.]

[warandpeace]

I think we could. But unfortunately I don't think I could go behind the captain's backs. I ran into a lot of bad luck acting and leaving out my CO before. Shouldn't try it again.

I don't think gathering intel would be so bad of a problem in the meantime. No restrictions on that.

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[gentlemenpreferblondes]

But you know, doing things this way also makes it sure that there won't be any casualties on our side.